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This survey was emailed out to all the senior design II advisors in early February 2006 by Mark Norland (President BMES 05-06), the responses that were received are below


Q: What knowledge or knowledge area do you think biomedical engineering students are currently lacking in and should know more about?

Q: What information should students know more about regarding the BMEn industry (desirable skills, tools, etc.) before they get into the industry?

Q: Additional comments or suggestions regarding what you feel should be on the online resource center for future biomedical engineering students (i.e. statistics, articles, links etc.)?

RESPONSES (5)


I suggest having an "events" link that takes you to bmes events and
to seminars and other activities that may be of interest to biomed students.

I suggest you recruit heavily for members in MechE and EE. Right now
bmes is pretty tied to BME, but it need not be if we are to have an
even stronger chapter in MN.

For events, let's have a *huge* student turn out at the 2006 DMD
conference, http://www.me.umn.edu/dmd/index.htm

Lots of good deals for students
http://www.me.umn.edu/dmd/dmd2006/students.htm

And the 2006 BMES Midwest mtg will happen at the same time
http://www.me.umn.edu/dmd/dmd2006/pdf/BMES%20Midwest%202006.pdf

At the 2005 BMES Midwest mtg (the first midwest ever), it was a
little embarrassing because while it was hosted at the U, there were
more students from Marquette and Iowa than there were from the U.
Perhaps you could arrange it so that 100% of the BMES mbrs at the U
participate this year? Contact Paul Iaizzo who would love to work
with you on this.

- WD


I apologize for not get back to you earlier. I applaud you efforts to
gather information from industry for use by BMES to help prepare the
students for life in industry.

In response to your first two questions, my philosophy is that BMEn
students, more than most other disciplines, should become very skilled in
the art of interdisciplinary learning. In addition to learning about the
patients that the devices serve, the engineers should learn about how to
determine what features to include in devices (voice of the customer and
marketing) and how to effectively balance time to market with design
trade-offs, working well with others (emotional intelligence), how to
determine trends (e.g., healthcare reimbursement), how to effectively work
in teams, how to create a culture of innovation, individual performance, how
to meet regulatory requirements (i.e., FDA, EU, etc.), how to pass audits,
etc.

Links to organizations such as the FDA, Product Development and Management
Association, World Future Society, Gallup Organization, specific medical
organizations (e.g., American Urological Association), business
organizations, etc. would all be of use in my opinion.

As you can see, I believe it is important for people to have a very
broad-based understanding that extends well beyond what is typically
considered to be "core curriculum".


Regards,

- KM


Assuming that most BME’s will be going on to industry and not grad school, medical school, etc.

Materials actually used in practice. My experience with the BME students is that they have learned about the science of biomaterials, but not what materials are available, how they are processed and the considerations for their use.

Processing techniques in general: injection molding, extrusion, metal machining, use of adhesives, an understanding of tolerances, screw thread design/selection, etc.

Reading and creating an engineering drawing according to industry standards. The ME’s have an engineering graphics course

These are the things I spend the most time teaching when I have hired a new BME grad

A1: Provide a link to the US Patent & Trademark Office (USPTO) www.uspto.gov

The FDA www.fda.gov

Interactive injection molding training www.routsis.com

Understanding engineering drawings http://pergatory.mit.edu/2.007/Resources/drawings/

A1: The nuts and bolts of engineering as indicated above. They would be miles ahead and more attractive to employers if they had an understanding of these areas

- DA


A2: Core basics. Unfortunately, my company still likes people to be either mechanical or electrical engineers for new hires. Thus an ME should have a drafting class (to be able to read prints), material science, fluid flow, etc. classes.

A2: That the industry still has certain biases against BMEn being able to step into a traditional electrical or mechanical engineering role. Not that they won’t hire a BMEN but only ones with experience. Smaller companies are probably more open to BMEn’s than larger companies ( speaking only for MN large companies). If an student can get an internship with one of the companies they have a better chance of changing that bias against BMEn’s.

A2: Listing of companies that are recruiting out of state. Students need to be more flexible and be willing to move out of MN ( they can always move back).

- JF


A3: : If students wish to pursue medical device product design, then they lack in-depth working knowledge in one of the key engineering disciplines, mechanical, electrical, or software. This would include lab work. If the students are pursuing clinical support, then they are not lacking much. In general what ought to be added is testing methodologies and statistics.


A3: Again, a working knowledge in statistics, mean, variance, population studies, statistically significant, in/out-of-control, common cause, special cause, etc.. This is something that Deming taught that George Washington University picked up.

A working knowledge in Verification and Validation testing. Bench testing, lab testing, clinical testing, animal testing, etc. To come up with a test plan and test protocols.

A3: test methods, websites: IEEE, ANSI, ASTM, AAMI, HFES,

- RS



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